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Sharre

You summed the meeting up nicely, I read through the constitution this morning and realised it doesn't even cover the guild's library. *sigh* there are some serious structural issues that need to be dealt with but cannot be until attitudes change. it is sad.

SallyO

A very good summary of the day's events. It's all quite sad really, isn't it? If it weren't for the fact that most of my very good knitting friends are members, and I meet great people at groups I go to, I'd give it up. Fortunately, the people there yesterday are I believe in the minority. Unfortunately, they're the most vocal and the most likely to come to meetings.

missfee

Gawd it sounds like that the meeting was a concentrated portion of all that is wrong and right about the guild. BLAHGH

Can we just start again?

diane

I couldn't make it yesterday as I had to look after my granddaughter (2 1/2 and no good at a meeting) but I am so saddened to hear that it was defeated . If we don't change we will die .

issy

Excellent summary of the day.

It was very sad to see that the motion was not passed - as I think that it is of great importance that the guild actually recognise the assets they own!

As I said to one member - even though sentimentally these items are priceless, it is important that they are catalogued and insured so that should anything happen to them the guild would then be provided funds to purchase a replacement (if something similar could be found) or purchase other items to renew the collection or commission replacements (in the case of modern works).

We can only hope that the change in laws will bring with them changes in the constitution that allow all of this to happen.

Lara

Agreed - an excellent summary, if lacking any mention of the writhing in pain from those of us that wanted to stick forks in our eyes to distract us from the pain of listening to all that drivel.

As Donna said, "the stupid, it burns".

But of course, you are far to measured and polite for such childishness ;)

It was great to see you both, at least that made up for some of the pain.

Merrin

The difficulty with the motion was its wording. I personally don't want to see the Guild tied down to having one of it's Objects to "Develop...an historically significant collection." Most emphatically our current collection does need to be maintained but I don't see our core business being in the area of developing a collection which will need specialist care. I work for an organisation which has an extensive and extremely valuable collection of textiles and I know how much it cost to store, conserve and value such things (btw some of my best friends at work are curators). Develop a reproduction resource collection and sort out the preservation of what we already have (as soon as possible) but leave the development of historically significant collections to the institutions like mine which are set up and paid by the government to do so. Also there are a couple of people I work with who could be willing to do a bit of voluntary collection assessment for us without having to get grants etc, which would ascertain whether anything is actually of historic value and then we can move from there.
One big plus was that it was good to get to meet a few of the "voices" yesterday. Merrin

Donna

Today I spent some time looking at the Knitters Guild of America website (www.tkga.com)
Such a professional approach! I know that they are a much bigger organisation, but the NSW Knitters Guild is basically an association of SnB groups, with a few committees. They don't want to change, they seemed quite proud of their amateur status yesterday. Of course, there are exceptions, but my feeling overall is that the majority of the members who were in attendance yesterday want to meet with their friends and knit once a month, with no hard work or thinking involved.
They don't understand change, and they don't want to understand it. And if you told them that people have no interest in the Guild, and that it's going to die out without change, I don't think they'd care, as long as it remains the same throughout their lifetimes.

SallyO

I do partly agree with you, Merrin. The problem is that it's taken 20+ years to get where we are, nothing is going to speed these people up, and we're not entirely convinced they know what they're doing. I don't have a lot of faith in someone who describes her progress in terms of the number of words she's written (7,282 for those of you who weren't there). If you've got volunteers who can help with this, wonderful. Bring 'em on (if they're allowed to help!)

Merrin

I'm going to have a chat with a couple of bods at work and then Archives Convenor, who thinks I'm wonderful for some reason, so I might be able to get stuff moving without too much angst and motions and perceived threats against the staus quo etc. I'll keep you "posted".

Jocelyn

Speaking from thousands of miles away, this is really interesting to read about. There's something about organizations that seems to get hidebound after a while, and sometimes it does take a fresh start to break out of those patterns... Good luck.

Atholie

I couldn't attend the SGM -( not a Guild member ;D) - but it seems that nothing changes.

I've been looking at (www.tkga.com) too, Donna. It seems it is possible to have an overseas knitting group (or groups) that are affiliated ....

Variegated

I wrote a huge comment that was obviously too big to be accepted, so I stuck it on the blog instead.
A couple of points have occurred to me since:
M-H Why do you feel that the Guild will cease to operate? - the Fair Trading website states that existing Constitutions will be accepted when the changes come in, and that any amendments submitted will have to be complying.
Atholie - I'm already a member of TKGA - let me know if you wish to do anything about an affiliated group

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